{"id":9778,"date":"2026-11-11T13:48:16","date_gmt":"2026-11-11T13:48:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/testingpeers.com\/?p=9778"},"modified":"2026-11-11T13:53:19","modified_gmt":"2026-11-11T13:53:19","slug":"podcast-episode-157-all-the-worlds-an-agile-stage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/testingpeers.com\/?p=9778","title":{"rendered":"Podcast Episode 157 &#8211; All the World&#8217;s an Agile Stage"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div id=\"buzzsprout-player-20108966\"><\/div><script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/1078751\/episodes\/20108966-all-the-world-s-an-agile-stage.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-20108966&#038;player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What happens when agility becomes more about following a process than achieving something meaningful?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode of the Testing Peers Podcast, co-hosts Chris, Tara, Linda and Sam explore the difference between being agile and simply doing things labelled Agile. 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